Pictures and Comments from the SCA-CC IV Gang
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!
Just got back from the SCA Cruiser Challenge. Man what a great time. I got to meet many of the people on this board and got to race my first race and my first sail on the ocean. I'm a lake sailer by location and it is very different on the briny blue. During the first race in the morning I kept waiting for the major wind shifts I am used to. They never came, just a lull and then back from the same direction, whats up with that? The dinner at the yatcht club was great, so was the brunch this morning. Speaking of food I also got to visit with my daughter who starts college in Monterey on Monday. I took her to the brunch at the MPYC. She loved it.I also got to visit my Gramma, I don't see her too often, she's 94 and still going strong. Sorry if this seems kinda disjointed, I'm still jazzed from the race and the 7 hr drive home. I hope some of the people who were there can fill in the story and post some pics. I was too busy to take the camera out of the bag :D :D TTYL
Re: THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!
Let me echo Dan's sentiments! Although I didn't sail, meet my daughter, or visit my grandmother... we had a GREAT time! Great people, wonderful facilities, good food, and that absolutely great sense of comraderie that is the sailing community.
Monterey is a wonderful place to visit! Next time maybe we'll pull the camera out of the bag and take some pictures too!
Thank you Potter Yachters, Monterey Pennisula Yacht Club, and Judy B in particular!
What Dan said
Great time and great racing!!! This was my first time racing on the ocean as well, and I just have to say WOW! :) Winds were in the teens for the second race (did anybody measure them?) with swells that seemed to be 4'-6', though I don't have much experience to compare them too.
The Cape Dory did great running out in the swells; the semi-full keel and the weight helping in the waves and breeze, though we lost ground to the lighter boats running back downwind.
I had A LOT of fun, other than engine troubles that necessitated bumming a tow back in from a Compac 16 named Tag Along. Tags Along was towing Bobs Along :) Sounds about right! If the captain and crew of Tags Along are reading this, Thanks a lot!! We owe you. It was going to be a long paddle!
I have two questions for the group: 1) The last two times I've been out, I've noticed that I have diagonal folds in the mainsail from the luff to the foot when the sails are filled. What is this indicative of? I've tried tensioning the main halyard and downhaul to get rid of them, but without success. Is it the outhaul? After we got in this last time, I noticed that the outhaul wasn't as tight as it could be, so I retensioned it. We'll see if that has any effect next time out (after I get a new engine). 2) How do you sail under jib alone??? I've tried on two different occasions, on two different boats, and both times I haven't been able to maintain steerage. Seems that the boat is nose-heavy and just wants to sail downwind. We were going to try to sail in under jib alone when we couldn't get the engine started, but couldn't manage to steer towards any point less than 100 degrees or so off the wind.
Anyways, it was a great Cruiser Challenge!! Thanks to Judy and the Potters for hosting and organizing the event! I also brought my camera, but neglected to even get it out of the truck! So, if anybody else took pictures (did I see Steve E with a video camera?) I'll look forward very much to seeing them.
Ed Armstrong, CD Typhoon Weekender, N. Calif Lakes
and it was great meeting Dan, Bob and Judy! and many others. I also saw
Steve E on several occasions, mostly in his boat, but never got a chance
to chat -- hopefully next year.
Cruiser Challenge conditions.
It was great to see you and your Typhoon at CC IV and to get a chance to meet you, and climb around your Typhoon. She's sweet!!!!!
WOW! I didn't realize you'd never sailed on the ocean before. You and the Typhoon did really well, especially in the second race with some decent wind. Bobs Along looked beautiful sailing on Monterey.
During the first race, the winds were under 5 knots, with frequent lulls -- it was a slow drifter of a race.
During the second race, conditions were wonderful -- the winds were 10-15 knots and blew pretty steadily, without much gusting. Swells were (I'm guessing) about 4 feet in close to shore, and about 7-8 feet 2-3 miles out (past the shelter of Point Pinos), about 7-8 seconds apart.
Fair winds, Judy B
...and next time I'll figure out how to bring my boat!
Pics of Da Winners!
Winners in the Big Micro Cruiser Division:
The Medium Micro-Cruiser Winners: Back row: Wes Montgomery & Bard Johnson ((2nd), Judy B, Jerry Barrilleaux (5th).
Front row: Jerry Montgomery & Bob Cambell (1st), Nick Fusco (4th), Don Rhodes and his first mate (3rd)
Winners in the Small Micro-Cruiser Division:
The whole gang at dinner:
SCA Challenge is over
for another year. Wish I could have been there! Justin and "Just Right" did it again, as did the Monty's.
Any TSBBer's gonna give us the "real story"? ;)
Man, I wish I coulda been there! Maybe next year.
I don't know the real story, what I saw...
was mostly the back of Judy's boat as she left us in her wake! Bobs Along kept up with her for the first two tacks, and then she was gone. We had a nice little duel with a beautiful green hulled Monty 17 in the second race, vying for the coveted 7/8 position :) We had them by 5-10 boat lengths on the way out, but lost that and more on the way back in, to finish 5 or so boatlengths back. It was a great run to the windward mark, good breezes and long swells. The Typhoon handled it marvelously, her long keel slicing through the waves and taking a little spray over the bow. We blew a couple of tacks, one stopping us dead as we crested a wave just as we came through the eye of the wind, but made up some time with the Cape Dory's stability in the moderate conditions. The downwind run was exciting as well, surfing on the 4-6 foot swells that gurgled past the keel.
That was the second race. I won't say much about the first race, except that I probably should've been DQ'ed for accidentally cutting off two boats on a starboard tack when I was on port tack right at the starting line when the wind died and I lost all steerage. Most of us "Bobbed Along" around the starting line for 5 minutes or so until a slight breeze started blowing again. Most of the Monty 15's and lighter boats passed me in that race; there just wasn't enough wind to push my 2000#s through the water at anything close to hull speed.
That was the racing from where I sat. I almost missed the start because I couldn't get my 1979 Evinrude started, I had to bum a tow back to dock at the end of the race, and I got a parking ticket between the time I put my boat in and when I moved the trailer to the "official" parking lot, but it was great!! The best part was meeting all the other trailer sailors!
Oh, I forgot to thank Rich McDevitt in my previous post for his tow from dock back to the pull-out ramp. Rich, if you read this BB, thanks again!
Re: I don't know the real story, what I saw...
You are certainly welcome Ed. Potter 15's seem to make a reasonable small tug boat ... I have towed several others this past year and I have seen other P-15 skippers tow all sorts of craft and people in need. Any time I can help a fellow sailor, I welcome the opportunity.
In the small boat race, wind was similar to what Judy posted, except we did have a little more wind for the start of the first race. I spent most of the race looking at the sterns of Monty 15's. In both races, Bruce Hood who was sailing Breezy kept me on my toes. Bruce has sailed P-15's for quite a few years, but only had a few hours of tiller time on Breezy and since it was a borrowed boat, I suspect he did not push it. I on the other hand, was so excited to get two great starts was taking it to the limit. The second race I took some water over the waist and had to bail with my feet and a towel ... or else Bruce would have caught me. I had the best tacking duel I have ever been a part of with Bruce in the second race and it lasted about an hour. INTENSE!! Bruce and I would cover each other and sometimes split tacks, but every time we crossed tracks we were still within 10-20 yards of each other.
It was so much fun I can't believe it was legal.
The Second Race for mid-sized cruisers.
I can't comment on all the other races, just the ones I was in.
The first race... well, let's just say there wasn't much wind. Just getting across the starting line was a lesson in patience. I don't really have a lot of comments on the first race, other than we didn't do a great job...seemed like the mid-sized boats just sat there sometimes in a dead calm waiting for the small-sized boats to catch up, even though they started 5 minutes later.
The second race felt a lot more "real" to me. It was real ocean sailing, in some steep swells and good wind, The winds were steady, ranging from 10-15 knots. It was borderline "small craft advisory" weather. I was impressed with how all the skippers handled their "small craft" so very well in those conditions :)
Sailing skills counted a lot more than luck the second race because we had wind. Anybody who kept his/her small boat moving along did really well. It wasn't easy stuff to steer and trim in. Everybody who finished that race within a half hour of the 1st place finisher should pat himself on the back for a job well done!
Dave and I got our best start ever in a race, only about 15-20 seconds late over the line, on starboard tack and in clean air with no boats blocking our path.
It was about 2.2 miles from the start to an upwind mark at Lover's Point. For the first 3/4's of the upwind leg, we were right on Jerry Montgomery and Bob Campbell's transom (M17 Alina), maybe 5 - 10 boat lengths downwind. Whenever we tacked, Jerry and Bob covered us. It was a fun tacking duel!
The first half of the upwind leg, we could see Jerry and Bob hiking out, climbing around the boat, trimming the winches, really working the boat. They were an impressive team to watch. They made quite a contrast to what was going on just behind us, where we could see Jerry and Carol Barrilleaux (Potter 19, Sunshine) sitting calmly, drinking wine. Dave and I were somewhere in between, working hard on every tack because we don't have genoa winches and it was a bear to trim the genoa. We were slow through our tacks, because we had to take it slow so we had time to trim before the genny loaded up. Once we had it set and pulling, we couldn't change it without luffing up.
About half way through the upwind leg, Bard Johnson (Potter 19, Passing Wind) and Jerry Barrilleaux (Potter 19 Sunshine) decided to split the course, and headed way outside. We didn't see them again until about 1 or 2 tacks before the upwind mark.
Alina decided to stay on the left side of the course, closer to shore, and so did we. The wind was stronger further off-shore, but so were the swells. The swells were steeper and taller (6-8 feet), some with a little cresting on the top, and they could cost you a lot of boatspeed if you mis-steered.
The other reason for staying inside was that there was a little lift along the shore too, that took you towards the upwind mark better. When we headed further outside, we got headed somewhat compared to inside.
A about 3/4 through the upwind leg, Dave and I blew a couple of tacks (we even failed to make it through one when I got distracted and didn't take her bow all the way through the wind! ) and Jerry and Bob gained an additional 15 boat lengths on us. We never caught up to them after that, but I don't think we fell too much further back either.
Two tacks (1/8 - 1/4 mile?) before the upwind mark, we saw Sunshine and Passing Wind coming back towards shore on a rhumbline to make the upwind mark. They slipped in front of Redwing. It was a pretty tight pack of four boats, with Alina perhaps 10-15 boat lengths upwind of Passing Wind and Sunshine and, with us another 10-15 boat lengths behind. But 10-15 boat lengths is a LOT of upwind ground to make up in terms of actual time
Alina rounded the mark, with Passing Wind about 45 seconds behind. Jerry Barrilleaux in Sunshine misjudged the rhumbline, and had to make two short tacks to round the mark, adding about 30 seconds onto his time. We were 30-45 seconds behind Sunshine around the upwind mark.
On the 2.2 nm downwind leg, I gave the helm to David to drive us downwind, and took a breather and looked around after I finished setting our whisker pole (which was broken and was only 7 feet long instead of 11). Nobody made or lost much ground on the downwind leg. Everybody pretty much sailed DDW. We sailed a little too far outside on the first half of the downwind leg, and had to correct our course to head back closer to shore at about the half way mark. We also had to jibe and switch the pole because of that, especially as the wind shifted slightly more offshore.
By about 1/2 way through the downwind leg, Don Rhodes appeared behind us in his Montgomery 17, Joy Jib. By the time we crossed the finish line, he'd caught up quite a lot and narrowed the space to about 8-10 boat lengths.
I'd guess that Alina crossed the finish line about 20 boat lengths ahead of Passing Wind (1-2 minutes), Sunshine crossed about 10 boat length later (30-45 secs later), and we crossed about 15 boat lengths later(45-60 secs later). Joy Jib was only about boat lengths (30-45 seconds) behind us at the finish.
After a 1.5 hour race, the top 5 boats all finished within about 2-4 minutes of each other, I'd guess, but I wasn't timing it. I was sailing.
I wouldn't swear to any of the boat lengths or times between boats. Those are just my best memory of what happened, and I was concentrating more on sailing my own boat than what the clock was doing. Somebody else may have paid more attention and be able to give a more accurate report. I can only tell you about who was in front of me, not anything about who was behind me -- I wasn't watching behind me! ;^)
Dave and I were pretty proud of ourselves. It's only about the 6th race we've ever been in together, and,even though we didn't take home any trophies, it was a personal best for us in terms of how well we sailed --especially against some top notch competition.
The second race of the day was the real highlight of the weekend for me. It was exhilarating AND fun! It was a real race on the ocean, in real wind, and a real challenge for a skipper sailing a small craft!
Fair winds, Judy B
thanks for that summary from your viewpoint!
It's fun to hear a summary of the race from someone at the "head of the pack". With as much talking as was done at the dinner and following brunch, the discussions are mostly snippets of what happened here and there, rather than an overall account. Now if only we could get some pictures posted of the sailing! Hopefully we'll find someone who took a camera, and won't have to wait until the SCA article!
Re: The Second Race...
Hi Judy, Sorry, I don't have time to write a long response as I am in
the middle of getting Joy Jib ready for next year's SCA Challenge. Actually,
I am ready to make the 706 mile back and do it all over again this weekend.
That was a great regatta and I have no complaints about the first race.
I do wish we had a little more wind at the Start but other than that,
I thought it was a good race with sufficient wind. As for the second race,
I should have used a larger headsail on that long downwind run. It would
have been fun to see your pretty smile as we passed you at the Finish.
Great Job!!! Looking forward to next year! But before that, another Mead
Madness awaits. And Justin, YOU THE MAN!
Re: What I learned at the Cruiser Challenge
Things I learned at the Cruiser Challenge.
1) I am NOT as good a sailor as I thought. A little humble pie goes a long way. We got taken bad in the first race, mostly due to skipper errors (that would be me).
2) The Potter Yachters ARE as nice as they seem.
3) Everyone I have met from the TSBB has been as great in person if not better than they seem.
4) The ocean is a great place to sail on, but it is very different from a high mountain lake.
5) Monterey Bay and the MPYC are fantastic.
6) Seals will do tricks for incoming boats for treats, there was this sea lion that swam just off the bow coming back in to the harbor doing all sort of tricks hoping we would throw something its way, unfortunately we didnt have any fish.
7) I must get back next year!!
8) Most important, there is still a lot I have left to learn.
Re:Things I learned at the Cruiser Challenge
1. The Cruiser Challenge was a lot of fun.
Subj: All photos compliments of my trusty old Navico tiller pilot....
From: Bard Johnson
Small Craft Advisor's continued support is also appreciated. Anika and Josh are becoming like old friends to us all. Plus, we all get to read about ourselves in one of their upcoming issues.
The folks at MPYC were also super: every one of their members and staff were friendly and helpful, just really neat people that made us all feel at home.
Because everything went so well, it really gave everyone a chance to enjoy the event and the people.
Thanks again everyone,
From: Jerry Montgomery
From: Mike Higgins
Thanks for all of the work you put into making the past weekend a successful event. The venue was spectacular, the logistics were flawless and the social events exactly what they should have been. Successes like this are not accidents, they result from the hard work of people like you.
From: Stephen Yingst
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 9:06 AM
Subject: Details of Crusier Challenge Results
Just one thing...we were the mystery boat of the race. "Flight" Montgomery 17. I'm wondering why we weren't listed on the results. We had a great first race, but during the starting sequence of the second race we got distracted helping someone with a detached rudder and missed the start by over 2 minutes! Alas. We did finish in the middle, however, and I wonder what happened?
Thanks again for a great weekend adventure. Stephen Yingst, Glen Ellen, California
From: Bob Campbell
Commodore Judy & Dave Blumhorst, Josh & Anika Colvin, Potter Yachters, Small Craft Advisor Staff, and Monterey Peninsula Yacht Club:
Thank you for organizing the premier small cruiser event. This year's
SCA Cruiser Challenge was first class in every way. Here's my
10. The turn-out was excellent.
Can't wait `til next year.
From: Harry Gordon
It wasn't a good day for alternative rigs. Manatee, with her new, larger lateen sail, and Water Toy with new junk main and lapper, finished 12th and 13th, respectively, in the small boat class. I guess the Marconi-rigged Potter is not obsolete yet.
Manatee and her new lateen sail seemed to be working well, but we were left behind nevertheless. The new sail has 96 sq ft, about the same as a Mk II P15 with lapper, but Chris Sayer easily sailed away, with no lapper and only 87 sq ft.
The "short" race was a long beat out to the Mile marker and a run back. Winds were light; it was cool and overcast, swells maybe 4 ft. The sun appeared as I finally rounded the windward mark, and the wind seemed to pick up at the same time. The run back was fast and glorious. I tried sailing the run by the lee, which is said to be fast on a Sunfish, and maybe it helped on the Potter too. I don't recall overtaking anyone on the run, but I seemed to be keeping up. I was 11th in the little boat class. I don't remember if I passed Pat Brennan early in the race as well as Mike in Water Toy, or just started ahead of them and stayed there. I was ahead of some of the boats in the larger classes also, not surprising in a novice race.
There was a little time before the next race, so I headed back into the harbor, hoping to get some respite from the constant motion and to eat the lunch I had brought. Before I could find a place to dock, it was time to return to the starting line. I managed one bite of a sandwich.I had been working on the boat for a week before the race, and my rigging improvements seemed to be working well; I had no difficulty raising and lowering the yard and getting the sail fully hoisted. After breaking a rudder my last time out, I had reverted to my original, slightly thicker rudder, still a little tacky from a hasty paint job, and I had overtightened the pivot bolt so I couldn't pull it up to dislodge some kelp I was trailing, but a few swipes with a paddle did the job. Once in a while I would pull up the CB to make sure I hadn't picked up any kelp there.
The class looked good at the start of the second race; everyone was at the line, and we were complimented by the committee boat for the best start of the day. At the start I knew the direction to the Lover's Point windward mark, but after a couple of tacks I no longer had a clue and tacked more or less at random, sometimes following other boats, or turning to avoid the kelp beds along shore or to get relief from the larger rollers further out..
It was again overcast, and the winds were now stronger, maybe 15 knots or so, but never enough that I felt any anxiety or need to reef, and I didn't see anyone else reefed. The short seas were increasingly interesting, with an occasional breaking wave and some slamming once in a while if I wasn't paying attention to my course through the waves, but I stayed dry. Sometimes I would try to steer "downhill" as I think Sunfish do, but I've never noticed any gain from doing so in the Potter, which of course doesn't plane like a sunfish. The period between waves was shorter than I remembered from my only previous race at Monterey, the Potter Yachter Otter Regatta.
It was a long, long way out to Lovers Point. Virtually everyone was soon far ahead of me. I was alone now, not having fun, and even considered DNFing, but pressed on regardless. Only Mike was behind me, and incredibly he was gaining--upwind! (Manatee has always beaten Water Toy upwind!) The mark was still not in sight, and far ahead of me I could see Don Person's red jib, still tacking.
I wondered if I had my sail too flat and tried easing the outhaul and vang to give me more power through the waves but couldn't tell if it helped. Mike and I crossed tacks closely and exchanged greetings. He told me later he had one panel reefed at the time he caught up with me. We then went different directions, making no particular effort to cover each other, and somehow Manatee was soon way ahead of Water Toy. Red Wing went by on the run home, and David assured me that yes, Harry, there is a Lover's Point mark up there somewhere.
And eventually there was--a welcome sight indeed--a small buoy with a pin. A Compac 16 was aiming for the mark from out in the bay, and it looked like I might head it off, but I could only fall in behind. I rounded the mark cleanly, hauled up the board most of the way, and let the sail out, heading on a compass and GPS course back to the finish line at G. It was pretty much of a dead run, and I was steering carefully and easing the sail sometimes beyond 90 degrees (no stays, you know) if I sensed a possible broach.
I had changed my sheet to the Sunfish setup with no purchase at all, the sheet terminated at the bridle, and to my surprise there was no increase in the sheet load, possibly because I had also moved the headknocker about 8 inches further out on the boom, which increased the leverage slightly.
Again it was a beautiful ride back, surfing down the swells, and I was having fun again. I was chasing the Compac 16, which was now wing and wing with a crew sitting on the cabintop. Manatee generally kept pace with her but never caught up. I thought Water Toy might close the gap on the run, but I was well on my way home before Mike rounded the windward mark, and he remained far behind. Mike reported there was a P19 that finished behind him.
I found myself overtaking Pat Brennan, who has a new lapper, and we approached the finish line side by side with maybe 50 feet separating us. Somehow Pat managed a burst of speed in the last few yards and crossed the line first, just seconds ahead, my usual CC finish. (John Purdy and Dory Taylor had squeaked ahead of me at the finish in previous CC's, and Don Person overtook me at the line in one of the Otter Regatta races.) I was 12th in class. (Maybe if I had pulled my CB up the rest of the way as I overtook Pat . . .)
My new rigging routine was a big success. Sunday morning I derigged at the Yacht Club dock, stowing the mast, spars, and sails in the cabin, in about 10 minutes. Then at the top of the ramp I stopped long enough to remove the motor and rudder and install the tiedown strap, less than 10 minutes--and I was ready for the road with no need to return to the parking lot.
On previous CCs, I have been fairly competitive, using a smaller lateen sail than the one I have now, and I took home a couple of trophies. Those races were in smooth, familiar waters, on a much shorter course. Apparently I have much to learn about ocean racing tactics and helmsmanship. I recorded a GPS track of the day's sailing and will be taking a close look at that when I get a cable to hook the GPS to my computer. There were other smooth-water sailors in the race who were sailing in ocean conditions for the first time, and I'm impressed with how well everyone did. It speaks well for both the boats and their skippers. So far as I know, everyone who started the race went the course, and no one had serious equipment failures or needed to be rescued.
For those not familiar with Monterey Bay, it is not actually a "bay," but a "bight." The only sheltered water is in the three artificial harbors--Monterey, Moss Landing, and Santa Cruz. The Monterey/Pacific Grove shoreline is somewhat in the lee of Pt. Pinos at the southern tip of the Bay, but a kelp bed off Pacific Grove prevents sailing there, so most of the "bay" is pretty exposed.
From: Josh Colvin, Editor, Small Craft Advisory Magazine
On behalf of the entire SCA crew I'd like to thank you, David, the Potter Yachters, the Monterey Peninsula Yacht Club, Bill Teplow and the great group of participants for making this year's Cruiser Challenge the best yet.
During the second race, when I looked out across the rolling gray swells and saw 40 mini-cruisers charging upwind, I couldn't help but smile. All those capable skippers in their able little boats making good time to weatherwhat a sight!
Can't wait to do it again next year. I guess we'll save the rest of our thoughts for the article.
From: Steve Eshleman, M15 #102 "Scamp", from Arizona
Hi Judy & all,
From: Dave Norris, Potter 19
With such beautiful prizes, after four years it's time to either handicap or REQUIRE THE SAME SAILS for all. You don't allow Spinnakers so why should you three affluent sailors be allowed your Jennies? Nuff said.
It's always fun to watch the hot and heavy competitors. Fun race it is and yes, I've never been a good racer. Damn, those Monties are quick! Love that lapstrake look, too.
GREAT ORGANIZATION to Judy B., SCA, MPYC and everyone else I have forgotten. What a trip!
Fair Winds, Dave N. and 13th place "WightCap"
From: DannyWard, Potter 19
From: Judy B, Potter 19, Redwing
Dave Norris suggested that we require every one to use the same sails or implement a handicap system:
" Judy remembers my comments. With such beautiful prizes, after four years it's time to either handicap or REQUIRE THE SAME SAILS for all. You don't allow Spinnakers so why should you three affluent sailors be allowed your Jennies? Nuff said. "
The top 3 P19's (Passing Wind, Sunshine, and Redwing) all used 150% genoas. Dave suggests that we ban sails larger than a lapper (100%) because it wasn't fair to skippers who didn't own a genoa.
I don't think restricting racers to the same headsail is an option for a race like the Cruiser Challenge, which includes boats from all over the country, not just Potters and not just Potters from the SF Bay Area. There's too much diversity between the boats that attend the SCA CC.
If you follow the reasoning out a little ways, it ends up being "unfair" to somebody, even to the point of excluding some skippers from participating.
Some skippers only own a standard storm jib (approx 60%)-- should we ban use of the lapper and genoa?
What about the skipper who owns only a 150% genoa (like Bard Johnson or Wes Montgomery), and no other jibs? Should we insist they buy a smaller headsail if they want to participate?
Should we ban the new P15 "J&J" lapper because not all owners have one?
Should we ban the use of GPS to help find the marks, because some owners don't have them? Don't laugh... Some classes DO ban the use of electronic compasses like the TicTac (which tells you when to tack on a header), GPS's and any electronics. The only navigational or tactical device permitted is a magnetic compass.
Should we ban skippers who have boats with new sails, because it's not fair to skippers with old sails?? Okay... go ahead and laugh at this one
As you can see, unless you go to a very strict one design format, you can't please everyone. Even in most one-design classes (in the non-spinnaker class), they specify a headsail size that is the maximum size for that class, usually a 135% or 150%.
The SCA fleet is about as different from a one design fleet as you can get. For the many and varied boats that participate in the SCA, we chose 150% as the maximum, to allow the skippers to use whatever "normal" headsails they might have, excluding spinnakers, drifters, gennakers, and other huge sails.
The boats that participate in the SCA CC aren't "one design" so I don't see how we can place strict limits on sail sizes. We'd have to limit all the other models of boats (capris, monty's, etc) as well.
As for handicappig, I've spent many hours looking into that topic. There are NO established and reliable handicaps for many boats in the Cruiser Challenge. Not PHRF. Not Portsmouth. The difficulties of handicapping so many different boats is virually insurmountable. We'd have to handicap not only the production boats, but also the "one-off" handbuilt boats.
That's why Josh Colvin of SCA (who handled the prizes this year) suggested that we raffle off all the valuable prizes this year, rather than award them according to finish in the race. As much as possible, we want to emphasize the FUN part of the race, not the competitive part.
The trophies are beautiful, but not expensive -- about $12 each -- which is the least costly of any of the prizes. You don't have to win to take home a nice prize from the SCA CC. All you have to do is attend in order to take home at least one prize (like a T-shirt or cap) worth more than the $15 registration fee. You might finish dead last, but you might still take home a $50 or $100 watch. :^)
Fair winds, Judy B
From: Jim Wales, P-15 #1040
I agree that any known handicapping system would be unmanageable for the wide variety of boats involved. The competition for the "iron" in each clas was among a very few boats, everyone else seemed to be involved in a match race with the boat just ahead of them, and having a great time doing that. I personally had a wonderful race with Mr.Mike and his 'WaterToy' and it was for dead last. I can't wait to do it again next year, I will admit to thinking about a '180 Drift', just in case it's another low wind race....Just kidding.
You and Josh provided a venue for 50 odd boats to get together and race, talk small boats, exchange ideas, and just plain share some great fellowship; Who could ask for anything MORE?
I thought that the only firm rule that I heard at the Skippers Meeting, "Play Nice because the ONLY thing that will get you Disqualified is Being Mean To Another Boat" is still the only rule we need for this Great Event.
One Skipper, One Vote,